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Quick Thoughts on “The Calling”

Would it be out of line to call this episode “necessary filler?” I’m thinking about the three Airbending children having their little adventure to find Korra, and wondering why any of it needed to be there. I’ve got theories. I even have a few thoughts on how it could have been handled better. But as it is, it doesn’t seem to add anything of value to the story. Maybe a second viewing will clarify things, because right now, it felt like they already the Korra part figured out and still had half an episode with nothing in it, so they gave the kids some screentime.

Oh, and I guess Korra’s spiritual development is done now that the mercury has been taken out of her body. I’m not sure how to feel about that, especially with nine more episodes to go. Hmm…

In any case, what did you guys think about “The Calling?”


29 responses

  1. Clander

    I’m pretty much with you on this one. Though I do like how they focused on Ikki a little to try and give her some development and how we can see Jenora acting all high and mighty. But like everything in Korra the resolution was too quick and easy. In the blink of an eye it looks like Korra is back to her old self. I also dislike Korra doing exactly what aang did in the swamp for no particular reason other than to complete the plot for the episode.

    October 24, 2014 at 4:13 pm

  2. Well I did enjoy the time given to the airbender kids even if it doesn’t really further the plot. And even though Korra finally got the poison out I doubt this is the last bit of development she’s gonna get. But I could also be wrong who knows?

    October 24, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    • I think you’re right about Korra’s development. I’m eager to see how much more she’ll have to go through before her inevitable face-off with Kuvira.

      October 27, 2014 at 11:38 pm

  3. I actually really liked how the dialouge was written in this episode. It had a really good rhythm and wasn’t overly long winded or expositiony like it tends to get sometimes.

    October 24, 2014 at 5:22 pm

  4. Ian

    I really enjoyed this episode and was very surprised at how much I was actually glad that Korra got to see the air kids again. Ikki was a joy and Meelo was mostly funny, and they actually used fart bending right! (it was quick and didnt ruin anything)

    The final act of this episode was fantastic and the lighting on the swamp was incredible!

    Also, I think Toph was actually handled well and her voice actress actually sounded…better? I cant tell, but it was definitely an improvement, I just dont know what it was.

    Anyway, really enjoyed the episode, and I cant wait to see where this goes


    October 24, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    • I noticed that little bit of Fartbending the second time around, and you’re right: “quick and didn’t ruin anything” is the best we can hope for with Fartbending!

      I’m not too sold on the final act, but I appreciate what it does for the story. And Toph did sound a little better. Maybe it just took some getting used to.

      October 27, 2014 at 11:40 pm

  5. I didn’t really mind watching the filler parts since they were enjoyable, specially thanks to Ikki and Meelo. I just wish they would have done more with Jinora, ’cause I didn’t enjoy her presence in this episode at all.

    I actually loved how Korra’s development was handled. It was all very moving and interesting to see, specially the part where Toph told her that she’s been disconnected from her loved ones for too long (bonus points for the background music, which wasn’t that great but worked perfectly anyway) and the one where she bends the poison out of her body.

    I’m still wondering if Toph can see what happens in other nations apart from the Earth Kingdom. I mean, the vines from The Swap can’t reach places like the South/North Pole, can they?

    Well, I guess they’ll never clarify it, but it’s not like I’m dying to know the answer anyway.

    By the way, I’m looking forward to your re-evaluation of all the episodes of the show after Book 4. I specially wanna see if you changed your mind about The Painted Lady at least a little bit 🙂

    October 24, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    • Jinora was sorta shortchanged in this one, and I can understand why: of all the children, she’s had the most going on for her. Why not let the other two get the spotlight for once? It could’ve been handled better, absolutely, but I understand their intentions.

      Also, your point about “The Painted Lady” did get me thinking quite a bit. I’m curious myself how it will affect my next viewing!

      October 27, 2014 at 11:44 pm

  6. tox

    It was alright. It felt like an A:TLA type filler episode, which isn’t a bad thing but it feels a bit out of place on this show. You’d think with 13 episodes the season would be more focused? Granted Season 3 had ‘The First Airbenders’ but that was key to setting up the thematic arc.

    This… just gave development to characters I don’t really care about. Meelo is only funny in bursts (I found him annoying most of this episode), and Ikki’s part was actually nice but not particularly compelling since the narrative gives zero shits about her (well aside from this episode).

    I was happy with Korra’s part though; I don’t think “the resolution was too easy” (to quote another commenter) at all. In fact we already had an entire episode showing how impossible the resolution was for her, and the previous episode delineated her problem, so this one was about moving past it. You can’t just look at this episode as an isolated story. I’m optimistic in seeing how a recovered Korra handles the Kuvira arc, and the broader thematic statement it has to says (both in reconstructing the Avatar and in its exploration of Kuvira’s unity)

    What I really, really, really disliked was Toph’s explanation of the villains in the story, and how they represent good things taken to extremes. This is so obvious that I found Toph’s blatant explanation patronizing, as if the audience is too stupid to realize that. Usually the show is subtle in its thematic explorations (e.g. how ‘The First Airbenders’ tied into the overall scope of Season 3), and no amount of post hoc rationalization (“Toph is a blunt character!” which misses the mark completely, or “It’s for kids” but it’s not really) changes that. Also, it literally doesn’t fit the flow of dialogue… Korra even says “Umm okay but how is that relevant at all?” It could have been executed so much better, and I’m actually surprised no one commented on this so far

    October 24, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    • tox

      It was ‘The Original Airbenders’ wasn’t it? Oh well.

      October 24, 2014 at 8:22 pm

  7. JMR

    So, can Katie Matilla just write all of the episodes from now on? Like, this episode was nowhere near as good as Old Wounds was, but its still just a really solid episode in my opinion. I especially appreciate her ability to actually write dialogue with some proficiency, a skill that seems to be getting rather rare on the Korra writing team.

    The one thing is that I do have to kind of agree with Tox above about not liking Toph’s little monologue about the show’s past villains, but for different reasons.

    Instead of the lack of subtlety, it annoys me because thanks show for reminding me of your shoddy handling of all the political themes you insist on including season after season. It’s especially maddening because it brings up the precise issue I’ve always had: the show’s consistent use of “they’re extremists!” (er, excuse me, “out of balance”) not as a lens to examine the issues through, but as an excuse to dismiss the villain’s often legitimate problems with society without actually addressing them.

    It brings back that nagging question I’ve had ever since the end of season 1: “Yes, Korra beat the bad guys, but did she really understand the bad guys?” Does Korra have any opinion about Amon’s quest for equality? Zaheer’s quasi-anarchism? What does she think about any of these issues? It’s something I’ve talked about before, that if you want to do an intellectual plot that revolves around real, serious issues like social oppression or the rights and place of rulers versus their citizens, you can’t just beat up the villain and call it a day. If you want to do an intellectual plot, you need to beat the villain intellectually as well as physically, something I can’t say Korra has ever done.

    It’s sad because otherwise this was a quite decent episode, it’s unfortunate that little Toph diatribe had to leave such a bad taste in my mouth.

    October 24, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    • tox

      Interesting point!

      I’ve been a big fan of how the show has handled its thematic discussions, especially as they relate to characters* and their struggles, even as it’s continually botched the actual emotional arcs of most characters (especially protagonists) not named Lin, Suyin, post-Beginnings Korra, and Tenzin. But its political discussion hasn’t been nearly up to par.

      I absolutely agree with you on Amon. I think the narrative destroyed Amon’s character and shat on the entire Equalist cause, which is funny because they did a pretty solid job with Noatak’s arc (note the intentional dichotomy in name usage). There was the post hoc election of a nonbender president (and a strong one at that, i.e. not caving to the Avatar against what he believes are the best interests of his people) but I don’t think that did it justice.

      I also think Season 3’s political discussion was pretty weak, but more because Zaheer’s actual ideology just doesn’t make sense: Why is the natural state chaos? Eventually people will congregate into groups, and civilization will grow**, so when does that stop being natural? And his entire philosophy (as presented to us) is so flimsy: he uses the Earth Queen & Raiko as examples of why leaders should be taken out, but that’s ignoring the good leaders too. Obviously Zaheer believes ALL leaders are depriving people of their rights, or they have that capability, so why he didn’t he actually mention that to Korra? All it takes is a “Well look at the Fire Nation, Lord Zuko and his daughter have brought peace and prosperity to the Fire Nation” to which Zaheer answers “Yes, and once Sozin’s ancestors were peaceful people, and yet the airbenders were nearly wiped off.” (I am not good at dialogue.)

      Though I should note, the show DID beat Zaheer ideologically; Jinora says “we have power together” as a rejection of Zaheer’s chaos/selfish disorder in favor of community and harmony, and so the airbenders’ combined tornado chained Zaheer back to this earth and ended his period of flying untethered.*** But it never really meant anything because Zaheer didn’t really stand for anything coherent in the first place.

      (Season 2 is ostensibly about spiritual fanaticism but it completely failed as an expose on religious extremism, since it’s hard to make a connection between the real world and a man whose spirituality can actually make him a demigod…)

      *E.G. Korra was a terribly written, inconsistent character in Season 2, but the way her character arc tied into Tenzin’s arc which tied into the overall themes of self-actualization and (to quote the show) “light in the darkness” was fantastic and definitely subtle.

      **See Wan and the Chus… this was when Raava and Vaatu were both fighting together. So what exactly was Zaheer trying to revert back to?

      ***Metaphors abound in that sentence

      October 25, 2014 at 5:50 am

      • JMR

        The President thing was honestly salt on the wound for me. After the way Season 1 ended with the whole Equalist plot getting unceremoniously dropped, having them spend all of about five seconds in the “Previously On” segment of the next season’s first episode trying to slap together a waaaay too easy solution to the problem was painful. And honestly, I don’t know that Raiko has been presented as “strong” so much as “obstructive”.

        While I would agree that Zaheer’s ideology is largely poorly defined, it’s actually for this very reason that I have to disagree that his ideological points were defeated. While there are some individualistic aspects of his ideas, I don’t see anything to suggest that he is against community. In fact, he belongs to some in the Red Lotus and his anti-Team Avatar. He states his message in his own words after his “taking down” the Earth Queen, that is that people have the right to “choose their own path” free of coercion from other people sitting on fancy chairs.

        In this way, you could say that the new airbenders are actually the embodiment of Zaheer’s ideology, rather than it’s antithesis: a group of people who have chosen to come together in order to accomplish a common goal, in this case learning about their new powers. While we get to see very little of them, we could actually run this parallel to the Red Lotus itself, a group of people who have come together with the goal of ending established rule.

        And Season 2 is honestly too much of a muddled mess in general to be too concerned about whatever it may think its saying about religious zealotry, in my opinion.

        October 25, 2014 at 3:09 pm

      • tox

        “While there are some individualistic aspects of his ideas, I don’t see anything to suggest that he is against community. In fact, he belongs to some in the Red Lotus and his anti-Team Avatar”

        I agree, it’s not so cut and dry the way I presented Zaheer. What gives it away to me is that when P’Li dies, he becomes untethered from the world, and he focuses solely on his ideology. It, to some extent, pits his community with the Red Lotus, particularly P’Li, against his true political agenda, and when he’s no longer bound to the former, his power in actualizing the latter is the strongest. I’m not saying there’s a direct war between the two, but it’s there in some shape and form. I also agree that the airbenders represent the BEST part of Zaheer’s philosophy, i.e. the choice to come together, but I think the ultimate decision to bring him back down from his untethered flight IS a rejection of the extremist parts of Zaheer’s anarchy (which is basically the part about chaos, assuming you buy that chaos is the opposite of harmony, which I totally believe). This is why, again, I think if Zaheer’s actual position were logical, Season 3 would have had a pretty coherent political statement. It’s the one season where they keep him sympathetic (except that outburst at the end, I guess) but still deny the extreme parts of his philosophy (as they should). I guess this is a matter of interpretation, but I think there’s too much in the text to really argue otherwise.

        “Season 2 is honestly too much of a muddled mess”

        I’d argue this is an exercise in laziness. Season 2 was an absolute mess on a character and plot read (though I’ll maintain it found its footing for the second half, bar the final episode). But if anything, it focused so much on certain ideas during the finale to make its thematic points (e.g. cosmic Korra) that it failed to be emotionally resonant. But that means that you CAN draw out meaning from the season if you analyze it properly. Now you are correct that its depiction of Unalaq is too poor to actually draw out political meaning, but again that’s not because the season was a mess.

        October 25, 2014 at 4:21 pm

  8. Nautilus11

    Generally awful episode.

    1) Half of it is filler, and the resolution of Jinora, Ikki and Meelo’s sibling rivalry is not well done. The “theme” is that the three of them finally learned to work together, but the show itself doesn’t back it up since them finding Korra is more a case of several convenient coincidences, rather than teamwork. Meelo is still a little asshole, Jinora is still the holier-than-thou older sister, and Ikki is still the third wheel with little in the way of her own character. Meelo, aside from a few comic-relief-esque eye-rolls from his sisters never gets properly called out for his behavior and adjust himself, Jinora never goes through realizing that her becoming older means she’s growing more distant from her siblings, and Ikki…what’s her story? Nothing. As these airbender siblings always were, so they still are, all the way into Book 4, except Meelo is even more of a little shit, and Jinora is even more of the snobbish older sibling.

    2) Korra having traces of poison in her is pointless. Not only does it serve to take a dump on Suyin’s metalbending abilities for no reason, it is also an unnecessary physical representation of Korra’s inner struggle. Rather than Korra just going through PTSD, and having a mental block preventing her from unlocking her full potential, Bryke made it more obvious with the poison remains, and the symbolic representation of Korra’s purging her inner demons when she metalbends it out of herself. I hated it, because it feels insulting to the audience, as though we’re too thick to grasp Korra’s mental struggle without it having an external representation. Absolutely not needed.

    3) Old woman Toph is someone I can see young Toph growing into. It is not someone I can see adult Toph, as she was shown to us in flashbacks, growing into. The disconnect is massive. Toph acts like a bratty 14 year-old, and she’s supposed to be 82, and apparently a mature enough chief of Republic City police. What the heck? Also, why is she shorter than Korra? In flashbacks, she was the same height as Aang as an adult, and adult Aang was taller than Korra.

    4) Jinora, Ikki and Meelo’s reaction to Toph was odd as hell. I mean, here’s one of the oldest and possibly most powerful members of the original Team Avatar, who was gone for years and suddenly disappeared, and their reaction is basically, “Hey, nice to meet you.” – compare that to Bolin’s reaction upon meeting Zuko. And the airbender children should have had even more of a reaction, considering that Toph was their father’s close friend AND she was thought gone. Bolin, by comparison, had no strong connection to Zuko.

    5) Why is Toph so damn mean all of a sudden? Young Toph was mean, but could be caring too, and she was a little girl at the time. In this episode, and the last one, the closest I saw to Toph caring was when she said “Well done, Korra.”, at the end.

    6) Exposition, ahoy! “Amon wanted equality…”, well, no, if we go by his actual actions, and the parallel Bryke were trying to draw with him and Tarrlok trying to seize power via opposite means, Amon was just an opportunistic, lying asshole. “Unalaq wanted spirituality…”, we have no idea what Unalaq wanted, he went from spirituality, to wanting to seize royal power, to wanting to rule the world as an evil human-spirit hybrid, to wanting to destroy it entirely. “Zaheer wanted freedom…”, as I recall, the Red Lotus wanted balance, but this was mixed in with anarchism for some reason, because each villain was supposed to represent a governmental system of some sort.

    Ideas, OK, execution, not-so-OK. This really just kind of cemented my thoughts that there is a major disconnect between what Bryke wants the audience to see in The Legend of Korra, and what they actually see.

    October 25, 2014 at 12:25 am

    • Let me just comment on one thing:

      I wouldn’t describe Amon as an opportunistic trying to seize power. He did want power, but not just for the sake of it. He needed it because otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to accomplish his true goal, and this was clearly shown to us in episode 11 of Book 1, when Tarrlock said that even though the revolution may have been built on a lie, his brother truly believed bending was the source of all evil in the world, and that’s why he wanted to get rid of it.

      If you need further proof (even though I think it’s not necessary), check Bryan Konietzko’s answer to a Wikia user who asked him if Amon believed in his cause:

      “Yes, I think Tarrlok’s assessment of Noatak’s motivations were pretty close to the truth. He came to hate bending for what it did to his life. He saw how it made others suffer and he wanted to eradicate it from the world. But he had to believe his own lie in order to execute that vision. ”


      October 25, 2014 at 1:49 pm

      • Clander

        I think the problem here is that just because Amon’s brother says that doesn’t make it true. We never heard Amon say this for sure. His actions say different things than what the creators intended.

        October 25, 2014 at 10:24 pm

  9. Grindal

    I think my thoughts can be summed up by saying I’m still waiting for Book 4 to properly start. It’s not to say that any of the first four episodes are bad – so far I think the various pieces are coming into place mostly well. But I feel that until we know the consequences of these ‘various pieces’ it’s still hard to judge each episode on a weekly basis. Now that “the Avatar is back in action” hopefully the series will start to pick up some momentum rather than the almost episodic feel of the first four episodes.

    October 25, 2014 at 2:43 am

    • I get what you mean, but I somewhat disagree. I feel that Book Three and Four are much more unified than any other two seasons of Korra, and the first four episodes of Book Four are more or less the second act slump of both seasons. As such, I’m not too bothered by the episodic feel of what we’ve seen thus far. Also, Korra has yet to actually confront her fears head-on, so while she’s cured of the poison, there’s a strong possibility that she’s not ready for the battles ahead. And that makes me excited to see how she’ll get through them!

      October 27, 2014 at 11:49 pm

  10. ItalianBaptist

    I have a hard time getting that Korra’s struggles will be over even with all the mercury out of her body. After all, the spirit/puppy thing from episode 2 was able to see “Dark Korra” as well, and it fits with one of the major themes of Korra’s character development – she can master the physical (getting the poison out) but needs to settle that with the spiritual (facing her real demons, whatever they may be).

    October 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm

  11. JMR

    @tox because the reply button disappears after a certain length of thread.

    I would certainly agree that Season 3 gets the closest to dealing with the political issues raised in a non-insulting way. I still read it though as simply a rejection of Zaheer’s more extreme excesses rather than properly engaging with his ideas. It’s all well and good to disavow the notion that we should bring about greater freedom via murdering world leaders, but do we ever really examine the underlying issues of whether such leaders are an impediment to personal freedom, the extent to which personal freedom should supersede stability and safety, and ultimately of what the balance should be between them?

    As for season 2, I mean, once we’ve admitted the plot is meandering, the characters are all over the map, and the villain makes no sense, I’d say “generally a mess” is being charitable. There are some diamonds in the rough, yes, and the season definitely showed an upswing towards the end (which, luckily, is why I was able to bring myself to watch season 3), but I don’t think that forgives all of its previously mentioned sins. More to my original point, there’s just nothing to really dig into with Unalaq because he’s so inconsistent in his characterization and motivation. It’d be like trying to dig in dry sand: it shifts too much to ever make any progress.

    October 26, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    • ItalianBaptist

      Actually if you watch the first episode and the last few episodes the overarching story of Book 2 becomes more clear. Unalaq’s speech during the Glacier Spirits festival, in all of its condescending and painful dialogue, basically brought home the point that the spirits are better than the humans. This is further contrasted with the scene transitioning to the hedonistic Varrick and Ginger while Unalaq is spouting all this drivel, and it shows his disdain for the physical world from the very beginning. Vaatu apparently has this same disdain for the physical world because he wants to destroy it, and when the Dark Avatar becomes Kaiju-monster man, he specifically says, “it’s time to take back the physical world”. Wan and Korra’s arc shows that spirits and humans, though VERY different, can and should live in harmony (which ironically mirrors a biblical argument against Greek dualism – God made both physical and spiritual things and one is not intrinsically better then the other). It does all come together, but it took me a LONG time and a LOT of rewatching to sift through it all, and it shouldn’t have to be that difficult.

      October 26, 2014 at 5:39 pm

      • JMR

        I’m not arguing the Season 2 didn’t have any thematic content. Actually, at the beginning I was rather interested in what seemed to be a tradition vs. modernity conflict they were building (why do religious festivals have to be all dour fasting and silent navel gazing anyways?).

        The problem, at least as it relates to Unalaq, is that his intentions and motivations are constantly shifting as he gets drafted to be the villain of each and every subplot that surfaces throughout the season. Why, for instance, does the Unalaq that wants to cover the world in Vaatu’s darkness and chaos care if his brother owns a slab of ice on the other side of the globe from where he lives? After all, that Unalaq just wants access to the portal there, which he gets without much of a fuss. Why, then? Because, of course, we need another Unalaq (“The Usurper”) to drum up some needless conflict in the form of the Civil War to pad our running time (Honestly, the Civil War subplot felt like an entirely different story idea that got merged into the main plot (Korra’s spirituality issues/ Unalaq-Vaatu anti-Christ) without the proper care or consideration).

        Overall, Unalaq’s characterization is all over the map, making him both a boring villain and a bit of a wasteland as far as political themes are concerned, which is what started the whole conversation.

        October 27, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    • tox

      ” I still read it though as simply a rejection of Zaheer’s more extreme excesses rather than properly engaging with his ideas.”

      Right, I agree with you there. I think that’s a pretty fair criticism, and there’s not much I have to say against it. I was okay with the fact that the ultimate thesis of the season was merely a rejection of Zaheer’s extremism. That thesis is ultimately a platitude, and that’s where your criticism lies. That said, I’m not sure I agree that it’s such a big weakness. At least the show bothered to show the decaying infrastructure under the Earth Queen, and the chaos and looting after her assassination. If the other seasons were this coherent (if, again, not particularly insightful), I would consider the politics an okay part, and wouldn’t have objected to Toph bring them up explicitly (which is what started this conversation)

      “season 2”

      Right, once again I agree with you there. My point was that the poor writing of Season 2 isn’t reason to kill ALL analysis/ conversation about the ideas it brings out. It was probably the most coherent and metaphorical of any season, with a central theme of yin/yang which manifests in all sorts of cool ways (sibling wars, civil war, light/dark spirits, spirits vs humans etc.). In the particular case relevant to the conversation (about politics), absolutely Season 2 failed. My objection was more to the general sentiment that “Season 2 was bad so we shouldn’t examine its ideas”: sure, this attitude wouldn’t make you lose anything in a conversation about LoK’s politics… but this doesn’t mean we shouldn’t pay attention to what it has to say about things in general.

      October 27, 2014 at 5:45 am

      • JMR

        That said, I’m not sure I agree that it’s such a big weakness.

        And again, I’ll readily admit we get really close in Season 3, which is one of the reasons its my favorite season so far. I don’t want to trash it too hard. Honestly, the only time I’d say the show has ever gotten this close previously was When Extremes Meet, it’s just too bad that ended up going nowhere.

        My objection was more to the general sentiment that “Season 2 was bad so we shouldn’t examine its ideas”

        And I didn’t mean to suggest that. I’m sure that there is some depth there for others to plunge, though I do have to admit that I have no desire to personally. There’s enough right on the surface of Season 2 that rubs me the wrong way (the renewed love-triangle, let’s make everyone a moron so Mako can be the smart guy, the amnesia plot, amoral yin/yang presented as Good Raava vs. Evil Vaatu, etc) for me to have any willingness to go looking any deeper. Given my overall feelings on the Season, I’m sure I’d have no ability to be objective anyways.

        October 27, 2014 at 6:46 pm

  12. @ Clander: I get your point, but Tarrlock’s speech is pretty much one of the ways in which the creators showed the audience that Amon truly believed his cause.

    Not only that, but we also had a flashback in episode 11 which further proved that. Try to remember it and think about this:

    If he was just an opportunistic trying to seize power, then what was the point of highlighting Noatak’s desire for everyone to be treated equally during his childhood, and how much suffering the existence of bending brought to his life?

    It was all those little elements spread throughout the series that let the viewers know about Amon’s true intentions, and I think they were more than enough. Subtle, but not TOO subtle.

    October 26, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    • Clander

      My main point is the basic rule of story telling for the visual medium: Show, don’t tell.

      When it comes to Amon’s arc that’s all we ever hear. People SAYING he is like something. People SAYING how he wants things. In the end his actions do a lot to contradict what people said about him. I don’t think it was completely contradicted. Like in the flash back Noatok mentions how their bloodbending isn’t the most powerful. The avatar is because he could take away bending. This helps Amon’s case a bit better. But one could make an equally valid argument that he took notice of the Avatar’s power to nullify bending and simply wanted it himself for power.

      I don’t think it’s entirely impossible to believe that Amon truly did want equality in some twisted way but the writers simply didn’t make enough adequate happenings to make it believable. There’s still doubt. People simply don’t buy it just because the show wants us to.

      October 26, 2014 at 10:54 pm

      • Ian

        Well if we want to look at Amons actions, what did he do? He never killed benders, Hiroshi stated that Amon was leading into a equalist government (which was starting at the beginning of episode 11), he never elevated himself higher than he already was. And even after all that happened he still showed compassion to his brother by freeing him.

        The only questionable thing he did was kill the lieutenant, who knew his secret.

        October 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm

      • I understand you wanted the writers to make their point more clear. And I’d agree with you if it weren’t exactly for what Ian said in his comment.

        I still think what the series showed and didn’t show us in those 12 episodes was enough for me to believe that Amon was true to his cause (I never really had a doubt during all the times I watched it) and I liked how the writers weren’t too obvious about it.

        But at the same time, I can see how other people can have different points of view on Noatak’s actions. You made a pretty interesting statement after all.

        October 27, 2014 at 9:21 pm

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